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Poster: Pisces Date: Mar 13, 2006 12:27am
Forum: etree Subject: Best 1980s Help/Slip/Franklin's?

Greetings all,

I'm a young-ish Deadhead (young as in never got to see them live- couldn't get tix in 1995 when I was 16, and that was all she wrote. . .), and, like many who had to start with thirty years of recorded history, I got the impression somewhere along the line that the Dead stopped being any good after the 1970s.

A few months ago, I heard 9/6/1980 and discovered how wrong I was. Since then I've really gotten into 1980s Dead (in a different but equally good way from the 1960s and 70s). The one thing I felt was missing was Help/Slip/Franklin's, and for awhile I thought they didn't play it in the 1980s. I've since found out I'm wrong. I do have the 1984 Greek run where they played it, but I've heard this is hardly the best of the 1980s HSF combos. So I'm throwing it out there to you guys. What are the best HSFs from the 80s?

Many thanks,
Pisces

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Poster: dscott Date: Mar 13, 2006 4:44am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best 1980s Help/Slip/Franklin's?

Get thee to 1983!!! There are a bunch of great versions of Help>Slip>Franx that year. The ones mentioned so far (4/12/83, 9/2/83, and 9/6/83) are all phenomenal, as are 4/26/83, 6/24/83 and 9/11/83. The September versions have especially gnarled versions of Slipknot, very intense! The April versions have a bit more of the bubbly/bouncy flavor that characterized that tour.

While you're in that neighborhood, 1983 is also a great year for Scarlet>Fire, Lazy>Supplication, Dew, and Sugar Mag.

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Mar 18, 2006 12:01pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best 1980s Help/Slip/Franklin's?

05-15-1983 Greek Theatre

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Poster: patkelley Date: Mar 13, 2006 11:36am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best 1980s Help/Slip/Franklin's?

The one off of the view from the vault dvd from '91.

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Mar 13, 2006 2:29am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best 1980s Help/Slip/Franklin's?

Welcome to the wonderful world of 80's (at least 80-83) Dead. I love that era, and of the eras I witnessed, 78-95, that is my favorite one.
Two of my favorite Help>Slip>Franklins are:
9-2-83 and 9-6-83

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Poster: J.C. Date: Mar 13, 2006 2:46am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best 1980s Help/Slip/Franklin's?

9-2 and 9-6-83 get my vote as well.

Some blown lyrics (per usual for '83), but the playing is fiery and creative.

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Poster: The Bopper Date: Mar 13, 2006 5:12am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best 1980s Help/Slip/Franklin's?

I'll third that 9/6/83 call. Keep in mind you really only have two full years of H/S/F to choose from in the 80's, that being '83 and '84. The combo was only played a couple times in '85 and then again in '89.

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Poster: bonk Date: Mar 13, 2006 3:08am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best 1980s Help/Slip/Franklin's?

MMM....the breakout in Hampton in the october run of 89 is really "MIDIFIED".I love Garcia as a flute and trumpet player...i am partial to this version..

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Poster: Compsurfah Date: Mar 13, 2006 3:24am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best 1980s Help/Slip/Franklin's?

Hey now... not to throw a wrench on the 80s H>S>F lovefest.. I humbly offer this 90s gem (IMHO). 9/20/91 Boston Garden. Help-->Slip--> Fire in the Mountain

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Poster: Pisces Date: Aug 15, 2006 7:02am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best 1980s Help/Slip/Franklin's?

Hey guys,

First of all, though this is way belated, many thanks to everyone for their suggestions.

Second, I recently came across a show of my own to add to this list: 3/25/1985 in Springfield, MA. Easily the most unique HSF I've ever heard to open the second set.

In the Help-->Slip transition, while the rest of the band goes from point A to point B, Jerry goes to point Z. Having apparently decided that his standard transitional line doesn't do it for him on this particular day, he solos over and on top of the parts, the beat- everything. And it sounds great! You can hear the rest of the band hesitate for a fraction of a second, but then just play on, and sure enough, Jerry lands bang on with the rest of them at point C to start Slipknot!.

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Poster: Zeno Marx Date: Mar 13, 2006 3:24am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best 1980s Help/Slip/Franklin's?

Give this stuff a shot too.

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=23230

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Poster: wanderingpoet Date: Mar 13, 2006 2:12am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Best 1980s Help/Slip/Franklin's?

IMHO: 4.12.83. Full disclosure forces me to admit that I have the bias of one who was there, but give it a listen. The Slipknot! alone is worth the time.